Law enforcement's relative radio silence over the probe has permitted a swell of speculation to mount online - something Holeman acknowledged. Delphi Lawrence (Delphi Cajetana Holzman) was born on 23 March, 1932 in Hampstead, London, England, UK, is an Actress. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. liver disease, it has been revealed. The sheriffs face was extremely flushed and became became beat red by the end of the briefing. The sheriff is also shaped like the man in the photos and videos. Therein lies the problem, r415they must not have any DNA evidence. I thought they had a suspect. I think it was a stranger. I grew up in the Midwest and Indiana is an awful, backward place. Delphi Lawrences hobbies are Reading, photography, learning, traveling, internet surfing and to name a few. A lot of the stuff you're listing is speculation and rumor, not fact. Information sent by email is kept confidential and is only shared with investigators. That sketch, which appears to be of an entirely different person, is now believed to be the main person of interest in the murders of Libby and Abby. We believe you are hiding in plain sight, Carter said. They are really pushing this guy for some reason. The video shows the suspect walking along the bridge behind Libby and Abby. He convinced her that he loved her and when she agreed to marry him he coldly dumped her and never spoke to her again. site without all this bureaucratic nonsense, That image is such a huge contrast to the horror that she experienced in her final moments. Ill tell you. I thought the killer was from their small town, and, for some reason, the locals were shielding him. It has to be him. I am assuming the killer was able to force the girls off the path and "down the hill" by either brandishing a gun or pretending he had a gun in his pocket. The killer could have used fishing line as a garrote. Do you consider this a cold case? If you can't find the email you can resend it here. I can't imagine the 13-15 year olds he would have been "catfishing" would have any memory or even the devices they owned from back then. I don't work in I.T. (1961). I thought I had accidentally hit the wrong setting on my surround sound tuner because the music was blaring and I couldn't hear the people speaking. I think its more likely someone who knows the area (truck driver? Learn How rich is She in this year and how She spends money? It wasn't too long ago and I wonder if that corresponds with the timing of this revelation, This will not be the guy- he is too fat- the guy in the video is far thinner than his baggy clothes make him look (And clearly has weaponry in his shirt), I agree R145, but apparently there are pics of him from 2017 where he's thinner (haven't seen them yet). An absurd amount of commercials and no new info. I have no idea what we are thinking. But posting inside a thread is okay, unless it's one of their delusional political stories. Carter added that investigators believe the suspect was between 18 and 40 years old, but likely looks much younger than his age. Not only for justice, but because that means that the sick sob who murdered those girls is off the streets. For more than two years. They're desperate to move this case forward but the truth is they've got nothing. R209 Leigh Kerr was supposed to come back and answer the highest voted questions that he hadnt gotten to last night. Anyone walking over it would be moving slow and with hesitation. I have never heard of a case with so much secrecy in it. I often think of this poor kid and wonder if he is okay. There is a rumor told by locals that one of the girls was pregnant. There had to have been a sexual component, whether they were sexually assaulted or not. Some of the theories here are REALLY nutty and reaching. Kids should be allowed to have some adventures. That's the walk of a guy with bad knees or something. Okay doing my random check in. I guess they were right. I read the 2 Reddit forums about the Delphi Murders. Equally bizarre was Robert Ives using the term non-secular signatures but now I cant find where and when he said it or even if he did. It's creepy but it's not of one of the victims. Maybe it's a cop and that's why they are being so reticent. Police have other evidence that they have chosen not to share with the public. He may have been interupted before he could finish whatever he had planned or felt in danger of getting caught out. Everyone in that town seems to know who had killed him, and where his body had been hidden and stored. In any case like that, there is always reason to have doubt, she said in an interview last week. "That young lady is a hero, that is no doubt, Indiana State Police Sgt. Hes a young looking 42. Or at the very least, they know because of how different you are since the murders," he said. A man was walking toward them, wearing jeans, a hoodie, and a coat, with his hands in his pockets. Her head was placed on a mantle, looking down at her body. Don't buy it. God, that is so awful. r319 Jack the Ripper did something similar to Mary Kelly after he killed her in her small bedsit room. IF that all is true, it suggests pre-planning involving multiple people. I thought they got the guy - he is in jail currently but was free when those poor kids were done in. The Snapchat photo shows Abigail walking on the abandoned railroad bridge. I haven't followed this case extremely closely but now I do wonder if the police know it's this guy. February 13, 2017. Every tip received is entered into an FBI system called Pyramid. That system stores information like names, descriptions and motives so it can be cross-referenced with other tips locally and across the country to find any possible connections. As the sun went down and the temperature dropped, the search continued through midnight when it was officially suspended, although some family and friends did continue to search into the overnight hours. So many of the guys in that area and of that age range look like the police sketch. I remember doing all kinds of dangerous stupid shit as a teenager. I am not a good judge of age, he looks to be anywhere from late twenties to late thirties, early forties from that photo. Indiana State Police previously said that autopsies were carried out on They need to come up with, or utilize, cellphone GPS-tracking by wireless carriers. [1] She was educated at Halidon House School in Slough, Berkshire, whilst living in Colnbrook. Surely Im not the only one who made these observations. (Other sources say that the girls were handcuffed to each other). Delphi Lawrences income source is mostly from being a successful Actress. LE doesn't want to call anyone a suspect only a POI (Person of Interest). On the final day of testimony, Garnett himself took the stand. For five years, no suspects had been named in the murder case of Libby German and Abby Williams, two best friends who were murdered while hiking in their hometown of Delphi, It was news. That person, he said, was his stepfather, Sam Whitaker. If they know who it is, that name would get out. R150 I think theyve ruled that out. This is close to an evidentiary information question and I prefer not to respond. Also, it was her brother who was in the search party and who leaked the crime scene in the texts exchange. Abby Williams and Libby German, the victims of the Delphi murders. I want that monster to pay for this. Did she fight back, did the killer see something about her that didn't like? Investigators need to think outside of what "real drug dealers do" or "real people do" - there is no REALITY to a crime like this. Wasn't there a rather pervasive rumor a while back about a leaked search warrant for a very specific blade knife? Fouts was one of the members in the club. DELPHI Three years ago, two young girls went for a walk. Imagine knowing the killer is in the community, could be someone you speak to everyday and they are just walking about as if nothing happened. 19521975, 1990. They're probably going to kill you anyway. People watch the news and think they are picking up on things, but its false. The bodies were found on someone's property, weren't they? I cant go back to sleep now I need to know what happened to that girl on Facebook! I didn't see a scarf. Nothing out there is accurate, which only leads to more false tips.. It is, she said, a truly interesting case.. I did read that the bodies were found on the opposite bank to where he forced them down the hill. A fishing kit of some kind can be seen on his person, as well as a gun. The IP address is connected to a home with a a dad and son with a disturbing relationship filled with child abuse, stalking, etc. 2. People think Libby reset her phone to delete her nude photos she sent him (AKA the fake model account). R384- STOP TRYING TO MAKE CHADWELL HAPPEN Why do you gaf, you creepy asshole. I've investigated this case quite a bit. I have read on Reddit that the girls were nude or that one was and the other wasnt. I am only guessing. I'm not sure that's true, when the obituaries were published, one girl's date of death was the day after the other girl's, indicating that they must have known one died before midnight and one after, some time apart. Browsing Reddit and found this mugshot of the suspect from a year before the murders and he looks a lot like one sketch of the murderer. As Sheriff, the utmost importance, in my opinion, is the integrity of the investigation. We can only guess. I think bridge guy could be of that build - and I've never bought that he was old. Like someone claiming to be a 13 yr old boy online and then a man shows up?? Based on comments at r214 u-tube link, sounds like dudes theory is at least interesting . but the narrator is way too slow. I dont feel strongly one way or the other, but I dont think its a certainty that they or someone close to them didnt know him. (R48) On reddit a women is claiming to have images of one little girl, deceased of course. Diabolical. No one really has a good idea of what he looks or sounds like. [quote] I wont link cuz DL doesnt like the Mail, We don't like when people start threads with a daily mail link. One of them, Jimmy Dale Duvall, is dead now. The sound editing was much better. She was educated at Halidon House School in Slough, Berkshire, whilst living in Colnbrook. And even if it was payback for something drug related, it would be a clean execution. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. A woman took photos and gave them to LE. The tattoo could be an archetype in his head that is his "type." Also per Leigh Kerr, the girls were killed at the spot they were found and were dead by the time Liberty Germans father came to find them. The guy on the video has nothing to do with the crime, but the cops think he does. I'm not sure I'd walk on it period. It would have echoed in the woods far and wide. He could have printed it out, traced it on his arm, and inked the crummy tattoo himself or had a buddy do it in 2016. He wasn't speaking extemporaneously; he read it from notes. They are also asking years later about whether anyone saw a car in a nearby parking lot. There is a photo on the internet of Libby in her casket. I hadnt know about the Brooks case but will read about it. R500 That's definitely weird. No matter the truth of why she did, he felt she didn't think he was good enough for her. WebDelphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in Hampstead, London, England, UK. Leigh Kerr and Robert Lindsey focused on Snapchat/sexual/religious. Period. a true crime group i read 95% of the members think it's this guy. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in London, United Just something thrown together to keep the case alive and in the public eye. Birthday: March 23, 1926 Date of Death: The trial, in which the prosecution sought the death penalty against the then 19-year-old Garnett, lasted from Monday through Saturday night, and was featured on the front page of the Daily Local News each day. I was recently educated on this point by someone who knows more about True Crime than I do. She had a career in acting and is most remembered for her roles in The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959), and The Avengers (1959). Her mother, Gladys Kent, was a classical dancer and was responsible for forming the children's dance troupe, the Kent Babes, Her father George was a musician and she grew up in Hayling Island, Hampshire, Educated at
To make him nervous, paranoid that detective knows something about him or who he is? Stop. One theory that keeps floating around, on discussion threads: Libby's dad is a known druggie. husband, Laurie Sautereau, at their home in Fulham, west London, on Saturday, had committed suicide. it would have been a thrilling adventure. Within the last week Ive looked at new Reddit subs, historic Reddit/Websleuths places, and then gone down old rabbit holes and new ones. According to the officer, Garnett told police that he and Delphi had gone to a coal yard in the southeast section of the borough, where he forced her to have sex with him. He may also be Robert Lindsey who had a blog but Word Press shut it down due to its sexual nature. Or someone prominent? Chadwell is not the first person accused of an abduction crime who has been investigated as a person of interest in the Delphi murders. R4777 Anyone who was a Snapchat friend could have seen Libby's feed that showed her photo of Abby on the bridge or other photos that Libby took at the trails. A family member dropped the girls off that afternoon with a plan to pick them up a few hours later. There is a rumor that one of the girls had been bit by a dog. People have tweeted at her about it and she's only liking comments. It just doesnt sound right. Ive walked across the high bridge myself. Although investigators have never given the exact context to the images or audio taken from the video, they have said they were taken during suspected criminal activity.. Stay away from places like this. When they now began to answer his inquiries, he learned another reason why they had been so close-lipped. No stone should be left underturned! It will enhance any encyclopedic page you visit with the magic of the WIKI 2 technology. If you see something that doesnt look right, Contact Us. When you're shown information that contradicts whatever rumor it is you want to believe, you get huffy about it. James Brian Chadwell II, who pleaded guilty to abducting, beating, and molesting a nine-year-old girl in April, was identified as a potentail suspect earlier this year. Of course he is. These would later be some of the only clues the police had at their disposal, and the enigmatic, blurred Delphi murders video continues to haunt the internet. He said he offered to take her home and try to help, but that his stepfather overruled him. Durnell said that initially, Garnett told them he had nothing to do with Delphis death. Just my opinion, but I think he has no connection to that town. If I hadnt let him take her home, she would probably be alive today.. One of the cellphone pictures from the Delphi murders depicts the suspect walking down the railroad bridge toward Abby Williams and Libby German. A good case can take time to develop. Investigators say the more information a tipster can give them, the better, because the more information they can enter into the system the more potential connections can be made and checked. The sheriff himself stated that even he was reported by at least three people (he didnt know who) and was therefore questioned/interviewed. The girl on Facebook who posted that she knew the killer and the details and name of the killer has deleted the comments. Definitely, that raises a red flag, she said. Could LE find the ISP of the profile's creator? (Other sources said that she only had a top on). As per the report, Delphi Lawrence lives in. This killer sounds like he has a remarkably similar MO. There should be some news by now. Nothing good ever came from the Knoxville Tn. This whole story gives me chills. I dearly hope they find the shitbag who did this and that there's a hell waiting for him at the end of the line. Gawthrop, who later became a Common Pleas and U.S. District judge and who died in 1999, called Whitaker to the stand to rebut Garnetts testimony, which he did, saying that he had not left home that night. WebShe passed away on April 11, 2002 in Northport, which is located on Long Island in the state of New York, USA. In a news release, the Indiana State Police said the creator of the profile used their contrived opulence while communicating with underage girls to "solicit nude images, obtain their addresses, and attempt to meet them.". Audible gunshots would have potentially drawn attention. I am somewhat surprised the case hasn't been closed yet what with the footage of the killeras was mentioned above, though, they may not have a sturdy enough case to "prove" their POI is responsible, even if they know who he is. R222 Wow, one of the hosts practically named CN: He sold or may talk about selling property, graduate education, better job than most in Delphi, and especially, stressing he had his own way to and from and crime scene. They seem to show a person leaning against a tree? Watched true crime shows as well. The man in the photo wears a navy blue jacket and a distinctive hat. So far, no additional information has been released and Indiana State Police have still not identified the vehicle or a possible person who may have been driving it. The bereaved older sister said she has also listened to the audio clip captured by Liberty "about a million times. The fat pedo does look like the old Bridge Man police sketch but then almost every guy in the state of Indiana looks like the Old Bridge Guy sketch. Actress. The police department took the liberty of connecting the spoken speech in the recording. The enforcer would come in, commit the crime, cover it up with the second child's murder, and leave the area. R473 The Sheriff said that there are 3-4 people that they believe could be the killer(s) and that it changes. I think he is the one who told the Delphi investigators to take a second look at KAK in connection to the Delphi Murders. That should be the answer And right after the crime happened, i remember reading that le was checking stores in the area, to see if they sold a certain type of knife. In the days following the girls murders, Libby was heralded a hero by state police for having the presence of mind to begin recording at the time she did. Let's seeon one hand, this guy was found with a 9 year old girl chained up in his basement, having been kidnapped, sexually molested and beaten. Thinking about what their final moments alive were like is truly upsetting. It has been well established that BG is the killer. Years ago I saw this brutal movie called Short Eyes, about what happens in jail to a guy who raped and killed a young girl. And it was in no way someone going rogue. This was a deliberate move by those handling the case to draw someone out. This means he would likely be familiar with the Monon High Bridge: Id love to have seen the sheriff photographed in the same position as the man in the photograph on the bridge and see if the images aligned. Libby was posting to Snapchat, so they had a good signal. [1] She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959) and The Avengers (1961). He said he would take her home, Garnett testified. Then, there is the sound of a gun cocking and one of the girls screams, "Oh my God!". This young guy, our cousin, who called himself her protector was the prime suspect. We have no idea if LE has DNA, but the assumption is they don't or we would have heard of it being used to find the killer by now. Try a different tactic or call it a cold case. Once the family said they dont think it was this guy it solidified it. Thank you for the updates. Kids are also social media minded and the bridge and the view made for good photos. That said, it's not proof of anything. Delphi Lawrence (23 March 1932 11 April 2002) was an English actress. He told police he would find girls on Instagram and then ask them to talk to him on Snapchat. I cannot find any source of Robert Ives, former Carroll Co prosecutor, stating anything about non-secular signatures. He looked away during poignant moments and gulped at one point. There is a reward of more than $200,000 for information that can lead to an arrest in the case. No. The picture looks pretty similar to the sketch. I think theres one piece. I cannot see someone closely involved in the investigation or to law enforcement revealing info that could in any way jeopardize the case. that's hard to believe r295 as they were said to be posed. I really do hope that he is caught some day - and that his lawyer doesn't get him off on some technicality. Kim Riley says investigators have interviewed over 1,000 people, including possible witnesses, suspects and anyone who may have information about suspicious activity on the day the girls went missing. They said that Bridge Guy seen in Libby's video we've seen isn't necessarily the man who said, "Down the hill, guys", In the audio after the portion that we've seen and heard, there is more that we haven't seen & heard - Libby asks Abby if the creepy guy is still there. Wish he was because those girls need justice and the thought of that demon still out there is terrifying. [quote] We don't like when people start threads with a daily mail link. At that same April 22 press conference, Indiana State Police also released never-before-seen video of bridge guy that was taken by Libby on the day that she died. No mention of him being a suspect in the case of Abby and Libby. We will update Delphi Lawrence's Height, weight, Body Measurements, Eye Color, Hair Color, Shoe & Dress size soon as possible. The killer may have been an 'enforcer' for someone to whom a parent owed a debt. She is not dating anyone. He looks nothing like the guy. Lawrence went on to star in a series of Andrew Lloyd Webber hits, including Starlight Express and Cats. With investigators remaining tight-lipped about the unsolved investigation and years since a Delphi murders update, several true-crime media veterans and former investigators have tried to pick up some of the slack as far as public interest in the case over the years. Here's a good recap of the investigation. R143 That is fascinating about the sheriff. The video image of course turned black but it kept recording audio of their murders, which were evidently horrorific. I thought they had brought in a suspect a few months after the killings who seemed like the likely perp? in 1984. For other inquiries, Contact Us. What really strikes me, though, is the photos from the Facebook account. Any murder cases where there is audio/video of the act chills me to my core for some reason. She looked pretty and like she was asleep. Libby German and Abby Williams were murdered in Delphi, Indiana on Feb. 13, 2017. Law enforcement, when they hold back information its not to keep the public in the dark it really is to help benefit the case, Holes said in 2019. one committed with an uncommon/makeshift weapon. Who knows if true, but that would really great if it works and new released information prompts a legitimate tip. Well, maybe Leigh Kerr triggered something. It was rarer still for someone of Garnetts young age to be charged with first-degree murder and face death row. But if they don't have DNA then they'll never be able to prove it. At the time, crews thought the girls had simply gotten lost on the trails and were unable to find their way back. Another key piece of the puzzle that investigators have released is that they believe the man who murdered Libby and Abby was either from Delphi or was familiar with Delphi either because he works there or has other connections. I shudder to think about how he mutilated them and posed their bodies. Assuming everything in that video at R500 is accurate it's pretty convincing. And then returned for whatever reason to murder. "Speaking on behalf of state police, we dont ever release information about ongoing investigations, Holeman said. I knew nothing about the case until today, but when I heard the man say Guys, down the hill it seemed like he was signalling other people via some Bluetooth handsfree set. [R460], I don't understand this either: "Why would the Delphi sheriff say that people will be shocked when they find out the identity of the killer." It appears LE is going with the son covering for the dad. sometimes it takes time, especially with a backwater PD. I had not even thought about the fact the guy could have gained weight! I have to read a little and then back off for awhile. The reward for information leading to the arrest of the Delphi killer is over $250,000. Kelly's room was less than 10' X 10', whoever entered immediately saw the blue eyes glistening at them from a bloody cut-up corpse. Also, why does the recording stop where it does? A sketch is a sketch and thats really important for everybody to understand," Carter said. I doubt that they were shot to death, though, given that these trails are frequented by pedestrians/hikers fairly regularly, and are adjacent to the main town. I just hope LE has enough evidence against him for a conviction. I will be very surprised if he isn't the Delphi killer Very. The main suspect/killer is probably well-connected, like a local politician's son. Women hating bullies identify with him. Im guessing Gelsons or The Abbey with her twink coke whores. It wasnt until he had the girls down the hill that he revealed his motives. Delphi Timeline: The investigation into the murders of Libby and Abby. The audio clip and still image of the suspect made it especially stick in my mind. Again, jmo. There were also some texts leaked from one of the searchers who found the bodies where the searcher said the girls hadn't been assaulted, though the validity of the texts is uncertain. I lived near the Platte Canyon High School tragedy. I also tend to believe stuff released from family members, although I understand people may feel differently. Stuff they are releasing now is ridiculously old (did you see a car parked in a lot that no longer exists 2 years ago?). We recommend you to check the complete list of Famous People born on 23 March. Police documents seen by The Sun, which are heavily redacted, do not make any mention of the Delphi case but do link him to the anthony_shots social media account. 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